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To Apple Care or Not To Apple Care

22 October 2004

Come January, I will have been a Mac user for precisely one year. To be honest, I can hardly believe it’s been so long already, and my Powerbook still very much feels like a new addition. I suppose in the 20 years I’ve been using computers, it is a new addition, and I’m still exploring and finding out stuff about my new platform every day. (This was a revelation). It’s only grubbiness of the keys that give the game away and reveal the number of hours use this thing has had over the last ten months (I estimate around 4000 hours).

So I’m thinking about whether or not to buy in to Apple’s extended warranty scheme, Apple Care. I’m normally set against extended warranties with the view that they only exist because the manufacturer makes profit from them. If the customer base as a whole won on the deal then no right minded company would sell such a thing. However, the customer base as a whole matters little to the individual – at the end of the day it comes down to whether or not it benefits me if anything goes wrong. Apple Care offers an additional two years cover if anything goes wrong with my Powerbook, but at the cost of around £280.

The alternative, as I see it, is to sit it out and hope nothing goes wrong and if it does I’ve got £280 to put towards a repair. This is fine if it’s something like the disc or power supply packing up, but not if it’s the screen, mobo, burner, well pretty much anything else. The other thing to consider is that if something major were to die, the age of the machine would be a factor. If I was faced with a big spend in the next 12 months, perhaps the Apple Care would be worth it. If the same was to happen in, for example, 18 months time I might have to consider whether it was time to replace the Powerbook anyway.

As with anything, it would seem to be a gamble. It’s a gamble both ways, with the smallest stake being £280. However, I treat my machines well and haven’t had so much as a hint of bother from my mac so far – it’s been flawless. The question remains of the likelihood of needing a repair – I’ve heard as many horror stories as not.

So my question to mac owners – do you have Apple Care? Have you had cause to use it? Any suggestions would be helpful, because I’m genuinely undecided.

- Drew McLellan

Comments

  1. § Jesse Rodgers: Applecare for a laptop is something I highly recommend. In my office we have made a point of getting Applecare for anything with a LCD because I don’t trust them to stay lit for 3 years. Nor do I trust laptop drives. I can take care of my laptop; protect it from falls, protect it from coffee, but what happens when that one moment of stupidity causes the laptop to land just so and the drive’s alignment goes?

    We have issues of latches breaking, ethernet adaptors breaking, and drives failing. Applecare is worth every penny.

    I don’t recommend it for towers, basically if they work for a year without problems they likely will sit there and work until you want another.
  2. § Drew McLellan: Well I guess what Apple Care doesn’t cover is accidental damage. That, thankfully, is covered by my home insurance anyway so the coffee / drop / place-on-a-chair-and-accidentally-sit-on scenarios are all dealt with.

    However, the nature of a laptop does lend itself to more stuff failing though the stresses of wear and tear, which you wouldn’t be able to pin on a specific, insurable event.
  3. § Kevin: I’ve had my 1Ghz tiBook for two years and I’ve had to send it in for repair twice. Once the LCD had to be replaced, and then a burnt out firewire port had to be replaced. The second one was probably my fault, but they fixed it for free anyway.

    If you plan on keeping your Powerbook until it dies or is obsolete, I think it’s a pretty good investment. Also if you plan to sell it when the next generation comes around, you’ll get more for it if you have Applecare.
  4. § Jeremy Flint: When my boss got me my 17” powerbook, I recommended getting the extended warranty. Not really so much in anticipation of something breaking, but more because of the “better safe than sorry” feeling.

    You never know what could go wrong. Like Jesse said, hinges break, drives go bad, etc.
  5. § Tor Bjornrud: I’ve had my 1GHz tibook for a year and a half, and I’ve sent it in once, and was glad for the AppleCare, because the problem arose after the one year warranty.

    Two of my coworkers, the only two I know who privately purchased Apple laptops, have also been thankful for their AppleCare.
  6. § Paul Burdick: I would recommend it just for the reason that laptops are more expensive to fix, and if something does go wrong it is likely to be more expensive than the original cost of the Applecare. My Powerbook’s hard drive died one month after the original one year warranty, and the cost of Applecare was only slightly more than the cost of a new hard drive with labor
  7. § Jesse Rodgers: I should add that Applecare really is just a tax that should be in the price.. but isn’t ;) Never price out an Apple laptop without adding Applecare. But if you are comparing notebooks, look at what the PC folks offer for support. Laptops can be good but you have a 1.5ish inch think piece of pretty metal… There is a lot in the engineering of them that is not optimal for the long life of the components but is for marketting.
  8. § 12InchPBOwner: I would recommend AppleCare for PowerBooks, iBooks and LCD iMacs. My 12” PowerBook 867MHz needed the mobo replaced after 1.5 years of ownership (the 128MB onboard memory went bad). Since it was the mobo, it would of been an expensive repair.
  9. § ncm: Yeah, for a laptop I would get Applecare. I had it for my iBook and I bought it for my new G4 Powerbook replacement. Good idea for inherently more fragile laptops. Actually, funny thing is that I never needed it for repairs on the laptops…so far. But though normally I wouldn’t have bothered for a desktop mac, there was a discount on Applecare when I bought a G4 MDD Dual 1.25GHz Mac and 17” Apple Studio Display (LCD) and guess what? The display freaked out after about 13 months of use. Top half of screen was suddenly darker than bottom half and ominous lights flashed in morse code patterns. I called Applecare and they confirmed a hw problem with the display. They sent a box, picked it up, delivered it when repaired (backlight replaced). Whew. Glad I took them up on that offer.
  10. § 10 year mac user: Well….I bought an imac a few years ago, a DV SE 500GHz, and I got applecare with it. It was worth having the apple care. The hard drive died, the powersupply died, the dvd-rom drive died, and the mouse died. All in the space of two years.
    However, my father had bought a blue&white G3 tower a year or two before that (300GHz model)... and that is still going strong, left on all day, still running OS 9. No problem.
    Right now, I am writing on a new ibook G4 1.2GHz, and if nothing goes wrong in the first year, I don’t think I will buy apple care. It’s too expensive – it’s 10% of the price.
  11. § jbelkin: If you’re very comfortable with Unix ( as opposed to me), you don;t need a 24/7 phone support standing by. My machine got screwed up somehow where we basically needed to reset the machine as if I bought it and reload the OS – I backed up so all I really lost was about 1 days worth of work. But if you your way around Unix, you shoudl be able to solve the most dire of OS problems. If you have another computer, you will bea ble to go online and download anything or read about what your problem might be.

    If you travel a lot with the laptop, you should probably get it as if something happens, you can call the help desk and get repairs going if necessary in most countries.

    If you don’t travel a lot and you mostly just carry it around the house or to meetings, then you might want to wait – the only difference in the 1st year is the telephone support from day 91 to day 364 as the hardware is covered under a 1 yr warranty.

    While I have had pretty good luck – a HDD did die on an imac but it was after 3 years and it was just chaeper to buy a much larger drive and install it myself – other than that, I have installed over 100 macs and there have been some tiny provlems here and there but nothing that required a huge expense so that’s the tough call.

    Here in the US, other dealers actually discount applecare. I’ve seen it selling for 10-20% less so not sure if that’s the case in the UK.
  12. § Brandon: My very first Apple computer was an iBook bought in February. And I fell so head over heels in love with it that I sold it and upgraded to the 15inch PowerBook. I now have my PowerBook and a cheap 2.8Ghz PC server that I use for backup.

    Obviously, I’ve been doing massive weekly backups on an external and to my PC from the laptop – as the laptop is my primary machine. But I’m paranoid. I had a real bad experience with a series of Dell Inspirons and I don’t trust little computers.

    The iBook and PowerBook have really set me at ease, though. I trust Apple’s design team and I believe they make solid products. Business-wise, most of us know (or believe) that AppleCare is all profit. Well, not exactly if you think about all of the overhead of the CSR’s and associated costs. Maybe APP should be built in – but I like it being optional.

    I bought it for my iBook, and got a great deal out of it when I transferred ownership to the gal I sold it to. Buying AppleCare with the PB was a no brainer for me – I’m a mac newbie so to speak, and the phone support is worth every penny I spent for it.

    There’s nothing like peace of mind. And at student rates, it’s a decnet peace of mind, at that. I wholeheartedly recommend AppleCare, if nothing else – for the phone support.
  13. § Tom: Unfortunately I haven’t had any AppleCare experience, but I have found a spelling mistake!

    The word you want is ‘warranty’, not ‘warrantee’. ‘Warrantee’ is the person to whom a warrant is made.

    Carry on :-)
  14. § Lenny Cooper: Yes, you never know what could go wrong… ;-)
  15. § Ellen Herzfeld: My first Mac was a Mac 512 in 1985. I’ve lost count of the number of machines I’ve had. Currently we have 6 or 7 desktop machines and 3 laptops in the family. For years I didn’t worry about things things like extended warranties and we very rarely had hardware problems. But I feel things have changed, maybe because they are more complicated and miniaturized. All our laptops now have AppleCare and I’m not sorry. One iBook was sent back for repairs 3 or 4 times in the first two years. One had the charger changed in the second or third year. One is still in its first year and hasn’t had any problems. The next new desktop machines I buy (G5) will also get AppleCare. Two of our G4s had problems with the CD-DVD drive after two years. No AppleCare and changing the thing is very expensive. So we got an external CD drive instead. If I decide to sell the machines, I’ll have to lower the price quite a bit because of this.

    My advice: get AppleCare for the peace of mind. After three years it will be time to get a new machine and the old one will still be worth something—not much but more than if it needs repairs.
  16. § Simon Weber: I’ve bought a G4/733 MHZ Machine and a 17-inch-LCD Display from Apple in 2001. The Screen “died” (background lighting broke) after 11 (!) months, which made me extend the warranty of the whole thing to the full three years (for a whopping 347 EUR at the time). Just this year – only some months before the end of the extended warranty – I had a series of kernel panics and weird system performance (sometimes normal, sometimes veeeeeery slow) which almost made me think of having caught a (non-existent) virus for OSX, but which turned out to be a motherboard and CPU problem, which was fixed by Apple (I had to send in the machine, the whole thing took about 3 1/2 weeks to come back). So I’m SIMPLY GLAD I’ve got the warranty …!
  17. § Chris Magee: You should go for Applecare. I’ve never been one for extended warranties, but when my iBook’s combo drive went south this past summer, I found out how useful Applecare is. Apple had my iBook fixed and back to me in under a week.
  18. § John: I’ve always bought AppleCare on any purchase from Apple for a portable machine… sometimes the thing that goes wrong is something you never could have predicted…

    For example, on my iBook, the wire that ran between the video card and the LCD broke… not the LCD, not the video card, just the wire. The repair quote was $300, just for a stupid wire… the AppleCare purchase I’d made was well worth it. Apple just sent me a preaddressed postage paid UPS box and I shipped it to them… had it back in 3 days, no more problems…. totally worth it to have them fix it than to deal with getting it fixed myself.
  19. § Small Paul: Never bought a laptop (though I’m gagging to buy a 15” PowerBook when the line’s refreshed, hopefully in January), but my TFT iMac G4 has been absolutely fine (through 2 house moves) since I got it 18 months ago. Screen’s great. Hard drive’s fine. Everything’s all good.

    Doubtless it’ll now die tonight, but it’s had no problems and I’ve had no AppleCare.

    My first Mac, a strawberry iMac from 2000, had its hard drive go a little funky in early 2002. Seemed to be something to do with enhanced CDs and iTunes. Had to re-format the drive, but backups saved my data. Again, I think self-replacing the drive would have been reasonably inexpensive, had I needed to, and would have given me a bigger drive.
  20. § John: Drew, Like Simon, I too have a G4/733 MHZ Machine that I got back in 2001. I haven’t had any problems with the box at all, but I’m still glad that I got Apple Care.

    As a user who was new to a Mac, I had a few issues where I was definitely suffering from Newbie-itis. The folks at Apple Care were very helpful in helping me find out what went wrong when I did something less than optimal, or when things just didn’t work they way they were supposed to.

    Maybe you’re over most of that stuff by now, or you’re comfortable finding it on the net. Myself, I didn’t even know what to start looking for, and Apple Care was a bargain.
  21. § Mark Maher: Apple Care is good indeed for my two 17” laptops – I still feel a bit fooled to buy everytime an additional guarantee for connected appliances such as external screens.

    I called today to check from Apple their care policy as they mentioned it’s possible to link one external Apple LCD with the PowerBook care at the point of purchase. Unfortunately I bought my laptops last summer – updated Apple care soon after and now wished to buy two external screens from Apple within same care scheme.

    Too late Sir! You gotta buy TWO separate AppleCare packs, one for each screen!? I think this sucks – at least they could sell custom care for LCD’s or as mentioned earlier include the care policy in the final price which is already quite high!

    I love Apple products, but ever since I owned one of those 17” crane LCD iMacs, having screen panel gone bad by strange qhost corners and screen gettin utterly warm – I would recommend anybody to wait until Apple cuts a hole in the back of their screens for extra cooling and clarifying the LCD care! If you look at new 20-23” LCD’s – they’re completely hermetic and quite warm-up quite a lot in use.

    Other manufacturers offer three years guarantee for their screens! I talked today with an Apple shop dealer and he told me that only about 20% of the customers buy Apple Care!?
  22. § Kenzie: I didn’t get AppleCare. I wish I did. I doubt there’s anything that could go wrong that will cost less than the £280. I’m due for my 2nd new display ($1000CDN) and I had the logic board replaced 3 times under the 1 year warranty. (PowerBook Ti 1Ghz)
  23. § John Lee: hey drew….

    i’ve been trying to get more information on the u.k. consumer rights thing. apparently there is a legal SIX year repair or replacement clause that companies must honour? this has got to be wishful thinking, but it was alledgely brought in to curb the ‘extended warranty’ nonsense that all major appliance brands are having a field day with.

    am trying to find out more….

    will post back if any wiser.

    cheers,

    J.
  24. § Fletcher: AppleCare is definitely worth the pricetag. Over the years I have saved myself some serious money.
    http://www.fletcherdesignstudio.com
  25. § tom: I have exchanged several ipods all under Apple Care with no questions asked.

    -tom

    www.visuallyimpacted.com
  26. § GDF:

    As someone who bought a 17” Mac Book Pro, just three months ago as well as someone who has been selling Mac products for the last nine months. I can say that my experience has been that buying Apple Care is a wise decision. For example a hard drive for a Mac can range in price from $138.00 (USD) to $320.00 (USD). Another example APPLE Battery For iBook (2nd generation) – 14 inch screen $130.50 (USD). Lets say you need to replace your ram 1GB DDR 2 667MHZ PC2-5300 200 PIN DIMM FOR APPLE MACBOOK PRO (p/n MX-MA346G/A) Retail price: $199.00 (USD). Now add to that the shipping costs. If you had to pay for these items out of your own pocket you can see how Apple Care is a great bargain. I have seen Mac products come into the store for repair and I have seen the repair invoices, instead of paying $745.98 (USD) for repairs and labor. Apple Care covered everything, no question. Keep in mind that these are the first generation Mac’s with Intel Chips. I can say with authority that they are more prone to break down than the old chips. I am not saying that the Intel Chips are bad, but look at the Windows machines with the Intel Chips and all the problems that they have. What I am saying is if your paying $1,999.00 to $2,499.99 (USD) for the 15” Mac Book Pro or $2,799.00 for the 17” Mac Book Pro, spend the extra $350.00 (USD) for the Apple Care and get peace of mind knowing that if anything goes wrong, because at some time something can and will go wrong with it. That if you buy the Apple Care you will be covered, in other words people protect your $1,999.00 to $2,799.00 (USD) investment. Don’t be penny wise and pound foolish.

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Drew McLellan (@drewm) has been hacking on the web since around 1996 following an unfortunate incident with a margarine tub. Since then he’s spread himself between both front- and back-end development projects, and now is Director and Senior Web Developer at edgeofmyseat.com in Maidenhead, UK (GEO: 51.5217, -0.7177). Prior to this, Drew was a Web Developer for Yahoo!, and before that primarily worked as a technical lead within design and branding agencies for clients such as Nissan, Goodyear Dunlop, Siemens/Bosch, Cadburys, ICI Dulux and Virgin.net. Somewhere along the way, Drew managed to get himself embroiled with Dreamweaver and was made an early Macromedia Evangelist for that product. This lead to book deals, public appearances, fame, glory, and his eventual downfall.

Picking himself up again, Drew is now a strong advocate for best practises, and stood as Group Lead for The Web Standards Project 2006-08. He has had articles published by A List Apart, Adobe, and O’Reilly Media’s XML.com, mostly due to mistaken identity. Drew is a proponent of the lower-case semantic web, and is currently expending energies in the direction of the microformats movement, with particular interests in making parsers an off-the-shelf commodity and developing simple UI conventions. He writes here at all in the head and, with a little help from his friends, at 24 ways.